Welsh independence: the plot thickens
Friday, January 26, 2007
Ted Jones has become the latest Plaid Cymru man to blog on the economic case for independence. His spin on the figures follows efforts by Montgomeryshire candidate David Thomas and socialist republican Seren.
If Plaid candidates and 'boffins' really believe what they blog, they will surely be making room for these arguments in their manifesto for the upcoming election.
I look forward eagerly to 'Change for the Better Part II: The return of the i word'.
Go on, if independence is half as popular as you claim it is then you've nothing to worry about:)
posted by Blamerbell @ 7:05 am,
- At 8:59 am, said...
"Go on, if independence is half as popular as you claim it is then you've nothing to worry about:)"
Seems to me that you are an unionist!
- At 1:14 pm, Blamerbell said...
It has nothing to do with my opinion.
Just seems strange that we have all these nationalists making the case for independence, claiming its their "central aim", and then completely ignoring it when it comes to the conversation with Welsh voters.
- At 4:30 pm, seren said...
Unwittingly, I think you're falling into the Labour trap of calling pro-independence supporters "nationalists".
I'm not a nationalist, I'm a socialist republican.
But I've been called worse :-)
The reluctance to mention the i word is because of Labour's success in the past in tarring anyone and everyone with the "extremist" nashie brush.
- At 5:52 pm, Blamerbell said...
"I'm not a nationalist, I'm a socialist republican.
But I've been called worse :-)"
- At 9:03 pm, said...
So....you are not denying it then?
- At 6:11 pm, ianjamesjohnson said...
I notice that the Parti Québecois in Canada aim for un Québec souverain, 'a sovereign Quebec', rather than 'independence' (whatever 'independence' is supposed to mean).
- At 10:23 pm, bethan said...
you do seem to have an obsession with the Independence question.
I think that it is important that we campaign for this next Assembly election by calling for a full legislative Parliament for Wales. Independence is our end game, most definitely, but surely we don't have to include it in everything that we produce as a Party, just as e.g the Conservatives don't have to mention their Unionism in everything that they do.
- At 11:44 pm, Blamerbell said...
"Independence is our end game, most definitely, but surely we don't have to include it in everything that we produce as a Party..."
Not everything. Not nothing either. Why not be more upfront with people? Not bloggers and journalists, but in your conversation with the voters in your manifestos and pre-manifestos.
"just as e.g the Conservatives don't have to mention their Unionism in everything that they do."
Why should they? Until someone says otherwise Wales is part of the UK. I presume you'd only mention it if you were planning on changing that constitutional position.